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Former good article nomineeNineteen Eighty-Four was a Language and literature good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on June 8, 2004, June 8, 2005, June 8, 2006, June 8, 2008, June 8, 2009, June 8, 2011, and June 8, 2015.
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Questionable YouTube clip

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I'm surprised about User:Drbogdan's addition of and external link to a YouTube clip which is much more than an "Updated Summary". It's a tendentious piece of pamphleteering, bordering on conspiracy theory, that uses the book as a hook for its ideas. Admittedly, there is a fair bit of summation in the clip, but it doesn't take 50 minutes to summarize the novel – it's in large part the personal musings of a crusader. I suggest to remove that clip from this article. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:12, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Michael Bednarek: (and others) -  Done - Thank You for your comments - and suggestion - yes - *entirely* agree - the video (ie, "USA (2023) – Updated Summary of 1984 (video; 50:03)") could be better, and has been removed from the external link section - Thanks again for your comments and all - and - Stay Safe and Healthy !! - Drbogdan (talk) 14:40, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Me and the Big Guy

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Kenixkil (talk) 19:19, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misunderstanding

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I think the description of the book on here and in popular culture isn't accurate and I can hopefully prove this with the book as my source. The government in the book isn't some all-powerful regime but instead a dying regime that became addicted to surveillance and repression of its own members to the point where the people who could've saved it were instead turned against it. The evidence for this is the description of chocolate and cigarettes which are both portrayed as being cheapened or reduced compared to previous times. A totalitarian government wouldn't be cutting the supplies of those 2 things unless it had to since chocolate and cigarettes are one of the few remaining creature comforts available to the working class. This means that the regime is failing. Another thing to keep in mind is that the repression was mainly targeted at party members and not the 'proles' who were generally left alone. This means that the intent of the book is not to warn the working class of the dangers of totalitarian governments but rather to tell people who would support totalitarianism that such a system will end up collapsing as it fails to function and ends up turning on the few honest people who could've saved it. The only thing the government was good at was catching disloyal government employees and it relied on this ability so much that it ended up getting rid of the people who could've saved it. I think people are misunderstanding the target audience. 2604:2D80:6305:600:587E:9E83:FCFC:9CC3 (talk) 02:13, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"I can hopefully prove this with the book as my source." You can not. Wikipedia articles require reliable third-party sources, not primary sources. Dimadick (talk) 09:23, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Linking the pen name

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In the first paragraph of the page I linked the pen name to the author's page instead of linking his real name. I chose this course of action because the same is done in the The Adventures of Tintin. Should his real name be linked instead? Sangsangaplaz (talk) 15:16, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]